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'All In' the Family?

A chip off the old block?

by Joe Sebok |  Published: May 31, 2005

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My name is Joe Sebok, I am 28 years old, and Barry Greenstein is my father – yes, thatBarry Greenstein. Although I have a good relationship with my biological father, I spent my childhood growing up with Barry (Bear). Once he married my mother, when I was around 6 years old, I never considered him anything less than my father.I can't say that I grew up playing poker across the table from my dad, though. He certainly didn't provide me with any trade secrets while I was in my teens that would ensure poker dominance in my later years. In fact, he set me back plenty by refusing to really even play cards with me until I – get this – actually got an education and accomplished a few things in life. What a jerk!This ongoing column is going to take a look into the mind of an everyday player, me, who is trying to break into the poker world. Now, granted, I have some advantages and insights from my father that the everyday player is not going to have. I hope to be able to share those with you here. These advantages, however also come with some decided disadvantages, as well: I had never even played poker until February 2004. Bear had specifically kept me away from all things spade, diamond, heart, and club for all of my young life. I actually had to print out one of those charts for hand rankings when I started. You know the ones … this is a flush, this is a full house – not exactly the makings of a poker god.We did have one commonality in my childhood life, though: competitiveness. I have always been hypercompetitive, and this quality was absolutely fed by my pop, who is just as competitive. Reflecting back on my childhood, I remember so many different ways that we gambled with each other that were not card-related.If I wanted some ice cream on a Sunday afternoon after watching football (on which we probably had a pool for who had to walk the dogs later that week), rather than going for a nice walk in the sun to get some – you know, like a normal father and son would do – we would actually compete for whether to go or not. Pop would get the football from the garage and fire bullet passes at me, with their speed determined by how much of a pain in the butt I had been that week. If I caught enough of the passes, it would be an ice cream wonderland for me. If I had been difficult that week, it would be welts and some tired yogurt from the fridge.That's no exaggeration, the man gave his 10-year-old son welts, occasionally.We loved to gamble in our house, at least my father and I did with each other – over almost anything. We bet on our one-on-one basketball games, we had bets to determine what kind of basketball sneakers I got that year, and we actually had bets to decide where we would go for dinner that night. We bet on everything – except card games. That wasn't allowed – ever.When I decided to actually try to take on this poker challenge, we discussed how, despite no direct poker game preparation, I had been trained – mentally – to be a poker player since I was a little kid. It was not by playing cards or memorizing starting hands, but by learning how to handle myself in competitive situations and maintain composure in high-stress environments.Just by my father being who he was, one of the coolest and calmest cats in the poker world, and by raising me to be mentally tough, I was gaining a leg up on many of my future opponents across the table.Take a look at what I mean: After graduating from UC-Berkeley in 1999, I went to work for several Internet startups. Now, I don't mean those where the kids worked for two hours and then played beer pong for five. I was clocking solid and regular workdays of 12-15 hours. I also noticed that I had almost no trouble with the high stress job, or with focusing for that length of time.I have to thank – begrudgingly, of course – my dad for this. His work ethic is legendary and I developed mine from long hours of algebra and trigonometry in high school. A few spirited words from him in regard to my being weak, which are also legendary, and I began to treat school as just another way to compete with others. He wasn't always the kindest father in the world, but with regard to me, he certainly was the most effective.The foundation was being laid for me to never give in, and to become mentally strong. These are two of the most important characteristics of a good poker player, and I was sneaking them out of my dad for future use, unbeknownst to him.We have discussed this concept several times since I began playing – the fact that I was picking up all of these different skills that would enable me to sit down at a poker table more comfortably later. Despite the fact that Bear had absolutely no intention of ever allowing me to play cards at my age, he was teaching me many of the lessons that I would need to learn to do just that. I quickly learned that I had to be able to lie effectively to him when I was trying to yank the wool over his eyes. He somehow always seemed to know when I was trying to pull something, and lie about it. I also had to adapt to his style and be able to reason out situations with him in order to procure whatever it was that I wanted at the time. By the time I was 18, I was many times better than all of my friends at logically picking apart things and figuring out what was true, which you have to be able to do while sitting at the felt.So, the race is on to see how much all the mental beatings I received from my dad are going to help my poker career. Are they going to be enough to overcome a woeful lack of playing experience? What's more important for a player, to be able to recite hand odds down the line or to be unflinching in the face of intense pressure across the felt? No doubt, you must be able to stare down an opponent and deduce if he actually has the nuts or just a big enough pair of his own to bluff you in that spot. But is that more valuable than having every starting hand he has ever played memorized in your head? I can honestly say that I don't know.You may get the point of this: Can an everyday player break into the world of big-time poker? Through this column, I expect to echo concerns that many of you are facing in regard to your own games, and I will share some of my successes and failures to help you secure and avoid, respectively, your own.Please feel free to send me any of your questions and concerns. I would like this column to be as interactive as possible. COMMENTARIES AND PERSONALITIES